Well, Michael, when you think about national interests, you have to really think about the gradations. Why is protecting Ukraine not in our strategic national interest? david sanger And at the core of it is that there really is not a vital national interest to send Americans in to preserve Ukraine’s sovereignty. And there are really four major reasons that the president made that decision. You know, Michael it’s a really fascinating question, because from the start of this conflict, President Biden has been pretty clear that there is no circumstance under which he is going to allow American troops to come into direct combat with Russian troops. So I was hoping you could help us understand why the United States, a country that has intervened all over the world and in various contexts, has taken that very powerful option off the table. created and has a huge say in, have ruled out sending troops to Ukraine to protect it and to discourage Russia from invading it.īut we’ve never really explored why that is. When we as a team talked about this standoff over the past few days and how we’ve covered it so far, we realized that we have said several times on the show that the United States and NATO, which the U.S. OK, well, with that in mind, David, I want to move to the central question of our conversation here. So we think the possibility of an attack remains pretty high. And you’ve heard both President Biden and Secretary of State Antony Blinken say that, so far, they really haven’t seen any evidence of de-escalation. So right now, we’re just trying to find out if this is rhetorical or real. And we haven’t seen it to the east, where the Russians have a long border with Ukraine and would presumably come in as one of the main vectors of attack.
And we have not seen it happen up in Belarus, where they’ve put their forces within striking distance of Kyiv, the Ukrainian capital. michael barbaroīut we’ve only actually seen that happen down near Crimea, which Russia annexed in 2014. The Russians say that they have ordered back to barracks a good number of their troops who were engaged in these military exercises right on Ukraine’s border. But we haven’t seen a lot of change on the ground. Well, Michael, over the last 48 hours, what we’ve seen is a lot of improvement in the rhetoric, largely from Vladimir Putin and other Russian officials. I asked my colleague David Sanger exactly why that is.ĭavid, I want to begin by asking you to explain where the situation between Russia and Ukraine stands at this very moment, and how great the risk of war between them is given what’s happened over the past 48 hours or so. Today: Throughout the tense standoff between Russia and Ukraine, the United States has taken its most powerful tool for stopping an invasion off the table. Thursday, February 17th, 2022 michael barbaroįrom The New York Times, I’m Michael Barbaro. Soldiers Won’t Come to Ukraine’s Rescue Throughout the threat of a Russian invasion, Washington has rejected using its most powerful tool: troops.
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